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Tuesday, September 30, 2008

Selfish

We teach others how to treat us. That is a phrase that has run over and over in my mind. Someone mentioned it in the comments and it really reminded me how stuck I feel. In Al-anon I have learned that I can change some situations simply by changing the way I react to them.

In a lot of areas of our life together this has helped. If I can ask him to load the dishwasher instead of doing it myself and then resenting him for it, I save the resentment and the dishwasher gets loaded. The problem is, who asks ME to do it? Why should I HAVE to ask him all the time?

This morning he says to me, I need to get my prescription refilled. I said to him, you are a big boy, call the number on the bottle and I will pick it up after work. He didn't call. He has left it, once again, up to me to do or our little family unit to suffer the consequences.

This is a theme I hear about quite often in AA and Al-anon circles. I looked for the topic in my Courage to Change book but couldn't find it but the fact is that alcoholics and addicts tend to be very selfish. When they are in the depths of their disease they only think about getting their next fix, about themselves and their needs.

The problem is, this is a learned behavior, and one that is hard to break. When FIL was in jail his only worry seemed to be about whether the neighbors would find out and it would ruin his "reputation." Never mind the mess he had created for his family. His concern was purely of a selfish nature.

For DH this seems to carry over into a lot of our lives. And I, am no less of a guilty party in this. I have let him "learn" how to treat me. Or, in a way how to treat himself. For so many years I accepted this unacceptable behavior and now I'm tired of it but I don't know what to do.

I've asked and asked and tried and tried but I don't seem to be getting answers that work for us. I tried the credit card thing and you see from the last post how well that went. I've tried letting him decide how much money he brings home from side jobs and how much he keeps. That SEEMS to be working well in the fact that now he tells me how much he gets and then gives me some. Not always how much I THINK he should give me, but it is a start.

However, my biggest problem is respect. How the hell do I get that? I don't want to be his mother but what is an acceptable "consequence?" I can't ground him when he throws a fit and calls me names but I also don't want him to think it is ok.

This morning he needed gas. He called me and demanded that I get him the bank card, again he shredded his credit card and I don't trust him to have full access to the bank account, and seemed genuinely pissed off when I didn't drop everything right then to get it to him.

After I dropped Munchkin off at daycare I told him to meet me at the gas station that I pass on my way to work which is a different way than he usually goes but NOT out of his way. He seemed pissed that I would even suggest that, instead he wanted me to go out of MY way for him.

Finally he pulls into daycare, I walk out and get into my car and he peels out onto the road. He knows I am TWO cars behind him yet he can't wait for me to get there. Instead he just starts pumping gas and tells me to go inside. Inside to wait with the 20 other people, thereby making me LATE to work.

This is unacceptable behavior, but what should I have done? I didn't want to give him the bank card since we only have one and I use it for everything I need where as he uses cash. So how do I give him a consequence for treating me like that without being his mother? Keep in mind he is now 36 hours off of medicine so the manic is already starting....

I just really feel stuck between continuing to play the roles that we have played and trying to move ourselves into different roles. I want so much some days to just run away and start over somewhere else with someone else. Would I let them treat me the same way or would I be stronger?

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

Here's my opinion. I think that you are in the in-between stage, and that REALLY is tough. You can depend on him for SOME things but not all. Then if he misses meds he regresses. You're stuck in this vicious cycle, but you can't excuse his behavior to YOURSELF by saying "it's the drugs" because now it's not. It's the effects of what the drugs did but this is the real him. It's like getting a new husband.

Anonymous said...

What if I don't want this one? Could I request a new one by mail order?

I kid, really, thank you for that. I think you are right, we have to decide who we are in these new roles and whether we like them or not.

Anonymous said...

WoW-I wish I had all the answers.

For me....I have expectations and standards on the big things in life with my DH. I made these things perfectly clear prior to marriage and we have discussed them since as well.

I need....Honesty, Respect, to Laugh Together, and Love; to mention a few. He in turn told me what he needs.

It is my opinion…..

You and your DH married under somewhat false pretenses in the aspect that he was using then. You loved each other, I don’t want to take away from that but he loved you as the DH on drugs and you in turn loved him that way.
If you were to wipe the slate clean, re-marry (your DH or someone new makes no difference), and re-commit what would you demand of a relationship for yourself and your son?

When I say “you teach people how to treat you” I don’t mean quite so literally like he didn’t load the dishwasher how do I teach him…etc. But as I read what you said I think you often say exactly what your answer is. You may not be listening to yourself because you don’t want to hear it or you can’t hear it past your past and past the excuses like the medications etc.

You said: However, my biggest problem is respect. How the hell do I get that? I don't want to be his mother but what is an acceptable "consequence?" I can't ground him when he throws a fit and calls me names but I also don't want him to think it is ok.

If you were to start over, wipe the slate and start anew with your DH or Mr. McDreamy would this be a prerequisite? Would respect make your list of things that are a must? Sometimes it is easier to excuse people’s actions than to face they just don’t respect you and you don’t respect them. Or whatever the issue may be.

I wonder how your DH would answer this question; “Why don’t you respect your wife?” His first reaction would probably be “I do”. But then it would be suggested to him “But that is not the message you send to her when….”

The turning point in our relationship is when I honored myself enough to take a stand on what is important to me and MEANT IT! The best thing that ever happened to us prior to marriage and even after was the marriage counseling our church requires you do prior to being married. They connect you with another married couple and they guide you, mentor you and open your eyes to how one another feels. I don’t know that all couples do that but ours did. It was the turning point for us. It was as if after six weeks we were a new couple. I was able to talk to him about things we didn’t dare before and he was open and understood. AND vice versa.
I really think that you and your DH would benefit from this. I know several couples that do this if you want me to ask them if they would be interested. This is not a religion thing, it is a marriage thing!

Feel free to respond, I know I said a lot.

Anonymous said...

caca-- I hate your 'name' ;)

...but I agree with what you are saying. I think that counseling would be a big help. Maybe not a dr. because that is costly-- but a pastor or someone that is going to still get DH's respect as an authority.

-k